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Newly updated map using information from www.thecapitol.pn |
When we finished reading Mockingjay, my students and I realized that our maps of Panem needed adjustments.
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Map of Panem - Tracee Orman - created Jan. 2011 |
Even though I do feel confident about my rationale regarding the districts, still I question the exact placement of districts on my map. For starters, what does Panem look like? We know the landmass of North America has changed due to "encroaching seas that swallowed up so much of the land" (THG p. 18). So any map is pure speculation based on what we think the oceans have devoured and the war and disasters left untouched. I tried to place my districts in areas that I believe would still be above sea level, however.
And I do believe that as far as landmass goes, the districts are going to be relatively small. District 12 was the smallest, with roughly 8,000 people. District 11 was one of the largest, but probably not larger than 100,000 or so. We have to remember that much of humanity had been wiped out after the natural and man-made disasters and brutal war. And logistically, there's not the means or manpower to sustain a much larger population, nor to create and maintain thousands of miles of fencing around each district. (And they are all fenced in. So, I'm pretty sure they didn't build these Great Walls of China there.) Therefore, the districts are represented as dots rather than having large territorial borders.
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Another map with District 1 closer to Vegas. |
*As of 8-31-11, I've updated my descriptions to include NEW information from www.TheCapitol.pn about each district. The graph below shows the industries by district. I had all correct except #6; #5 and #9 were mixed around (I had #9 as power & #5 as grain). I also used information from the district seals, as referenced in this blog post.
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A list of the district industries! TheCapitol.pn |
District 1 - Luxury: District 1 produces luxury items for the Capitol. But Katniss also mentions diamond mining. Canada is a much more realistic location for diamond mining than the U.S. I placed it in its current location, near Calgary because this area seems to have a richer source of diamond mining nearby, plus it's not too far away from civilization. My second choice would be the L.A., California area or perhaps even Las Vegas. TheCapitol.pn released the district 1 seal with a castle on it. I can't think of any places in North America with castles, except the glitzy kind in L.A..
District 2 - Masonry: After reading Mockingjay, I believe district 2 is near Colorado Springs. We learn that it is presented as the nation's stone quarries (masonry), but in fact produces weapons and trains Peacekeepers. This area of Colorado is not only home to the Air Force Academy, but also to Lockheed-Martin, which would have the capability to produce high-tech weaponry. I think NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command), which lies within Cheyenne Mountain just outside Colorado Springs, served as a model for the “Nut” of district 2, which was the Capitol’s center for defense. Every description of the Nut (like the avalanche paths running down the side and the entrances that are set deep within the mountain - p. 201-202, MJ) seem to also describe NORAD/Cheyenne Mountain.There's also a comment mentioning that district 2 is actually several little villages/settlements. Colorado ski towns in the vicinity seem to gel with this location for me.
District 3 - Technology: CF’s Beetee and Wiress reign from district 3, as did the boy who wires the launch mines to protect the Career supplies in THG. They are described with almost an Asian look, and extremely smart, especially with electronics, wires, and any sort of technology (CF p. 226). Their district bread is square-shaped, like a computer chip. It makes sense that they would reside from Silicon Valley (San Jose/San Francisco Bay area). Another idea was Arizona, which has a rich supply of copper mines for wire production. One thing makes me question these locations, however: Katniss mentions that district 3 also makes automobiles. Perhaps district 3 is actually in Mexico?
District 4 - Fishing: Because fishing is district 4’s industry and its bread is seaweed-tinted, its logical location is near the ocean. I previously thought the Gulf of Mexico was a plausible place for district 4, but the more I thought about the damage to sea life in the Gulf (even before the oil spill, there’s a dead zone in the Gulf–a lack of oxygen to sustain aquatic life–caused by a run-off of nitrogen and phosphorous from the Mississippi River. Fertilizers used in farming is one of the biggest contributors; sewer and animal waste is another). Another consideration is the characteristics of Finnick: he is not entirely dark complected, has bronze-colored hair, and sea-green eyes (CF p. 212). If he were native to a warm climate, his skin would naturally be darker. Sure, he could be an exception. But all the other district people (who are physically described) have very distinct looks based on their region (like Chaff and Seeder, who are from 11, with brown eyes. "Only her golden brown eyes mark her from another district." CF p. 214). So I looked further north for a plausible area for 4. The New England area is out because Katniss specifically says there is nothing past district 12 except the district 13 ruins and wilderness (THG p. 83). So I looked into the Pacific side and decided the Seattle/Vancouver area would be the best location for the fishing industry. I've decided to go with my first instincts and switch district 4 to Mexico. But NOT the Gulf side. It makes more sense to place it on the Baja side. I think (even before the oil spill) the "dead zone" farmers have caused in the Gulf with their chemical run-offs has been too damaging for sustaining the sea life.
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Panem - Sept. 2010 - Tracee Orman |
District 6 - Transportation: So, I originally thought district 6 was the producer of pharmaceuticals. Even though we now know it is transportation, I still contend the location needs to be in the East (which works for transportation) because Bonnie & Twill jump off the train leaving district 8 on its way to 6, then walk the rest of the way to 12 (CF, p. 146). I have 8 near Chicago. Chicago is also a big transportation-hub city, so 8 and 6 could still be near my originally placed locations. Washington D.C., home to Amtrak and Union Station seems plausible, as well. My only drawback is that Katniss says there isn't anything beyond district 12. So, I believe because of its proximity to Detroit (Motor City, baby!), Toledo, Ohio, seems logical to me. It is a transportation haven that runs along three major interstate highways, has mass transit bus services, and provides passenger railway service via Amtrak. I also thought Cleveland would be a good city for district 6, but since Toledo was just a bit closer to Detroit, I went with it. Update: The district 6 poster reveals the two major forms of transportation for district 6 as trains and hovercrafts (I think it's a hovercraft in the picture, anyway). And district 3 supposedly makes cars (referenced in THG), so I think I might need to adjust the location of 6 to the D.C. area. Which means 12 probably has to go a little further south than where I have it.
District 7 - Lumber: Lumber is district 7’s industry. While in America the Pacific Northwest seems ideal, I think in Panem, the Capitol would look for the area with the most to strip and exploit for as long as possible. Therefore, the plentiful forests in Canada might be more plausible. Ontario has the best mix of deciduous and conifers that would be necessary to sustain the Capitol’s needs. Yet, British Columbia's towering forests is a very close second for the location of district 7. OK, I've gone back to my old opinion of the Pacific Northwest for district 7. It just feels right to place it there.
District 8 - Textiles: Textile manufacturing. Parts of Chicago fit the description of a place with all buildings and little to no grass. It also has numerous textile manufacturers, "chilly" weather, and is a reasonable distance from district 12 for Bonnie and Twill to travel to.
District 9 - Grain: Katniss said one of the districts had stinky refineries (CF, p. 71), and she wasn't referring to district 8. I grew up in the Midwest near corn sweetener and cereal factories that stink! So my NEW guess is that district 9 is near Cedar Rapids, Iowa, which is/was home to ADM Corn Sweeteners, Quaker Oats, National Oats, and General Mills factories. Anyone who has driven through CR (and you can include Clinton, Iowa into the mix, as well) knows how badly it smells. Because Kansas and North Dakota both lead the nation in wheat production, Iowa is located close enough to both states to refine wheat, as well as utilizing its own corn production, as well (which IS a grain, though many seem to think it's a vegetable).
This district was, perhaps, the hardest to place. We don't get to know any tributes from nine except the boy from the 74th Games who grabbed the orange backpack the same time as Katniss, then is killed by Clove. In CF, there isn't even a mention of district 9 except that both tributes die the first day. She only mentions the fields of wheat in Catching Fire once when they were on the victory tour going from district to district: "...fields of wheat, stinking refineries." It doesn't seem to be in order, though, because she mentions a "glimpse of the sea" (district 4), then "towering forests" (district 7), "ugly factories" (not sure which one...could be 3, 8, or 10 perhaps), then the wheat (which we know is 9) and stinking refineries (which must be either 3, 8, or 10, as well because then they go to districts 1 and 2 after this and they were already in district 11). So, which district would most likely have refineries? Ugly factories? (I say district 8 the ugly factories; perhaps district 3 has metal refineries?)
District 10 - Livestock: Livestock/Cattle production. I believe Texas seems to be the leader in cattle/beef production; the location I chose is King Ranch, near Corpus Cristi, which is one of the world’s largest ranches. My second choice would be Missouri or Kansas, since we have to consider the need for dairy production, as well.
District 11 - Agriculture: We know district 11 is one of the largest districts and it produces food for Panem. Rue worked in the orchards and Katniss commented on how much warmer it was than district 12. Georgia is known for its peaches and would be warmer than the West Virginia/Appalachian Mountain area of district 12, so I placed it in the city of Atlanta. Besides, doesn't this look like the description of district 11's justice building (with its covered terraces)?
District 12 - Mining: Industry is coal and location is within the Appalachian Mountain range. It does have cold winters, so West Virginia seems to fit for the location. Plus, it works with the location of district 13. Note: The movie is filmed in North Carolina; perhaps District 12 is just a little bit further southeast. The area around West Virginia, Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina seems ideal.
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Panem - June 2010 - T.Orman |
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Classroom Materials
You can purchase the 25-page activity packet for your students here: http://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/Hunger-Games-Trilogy-Map-of-Panem-Arena-and-Capitol-ActivitiesIt includes handouts for each book in the trilogy, sample maps of Panem, and arena and Capitol map projects.
This activity is included in my Hunger Games trilogy shipped CD and Mockingjay shipped CD. Unfortunately, it is too large to fit in my other units or in the digital download units.
References are to the Hunger Games trilogy series by author Suzanne Collins, published by Scholastic Press.
The Hunger Games (Book 1)
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Catching Fire (The Second Book of the Hunger Games)
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I think district 4 (since it fishing) is around P.E.I,Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and New Brunswick
ReplyDeleteI agree! And i'm from Newfoundland :D
DeleteThanks for sharing! I didn't place district 4 there for one reason only: because Katniss comments that there is nothing beyond district 12 (in Appalachia) except wilderness and the ruins of district 13. So I assume that means no other districts are beyond the Appalachian mountains besides 13. But when I was researching I did find that the Prince Edward Island (PEI) area was much better for shrimping/fishing, so who knows... Maybe she didn't mean that far north with her reference about district 12/13. Personally, Katniss's statement contradicts the one she made about the Capitol not teaching history/withholding information about other districts. If that's the case, how does she know that 13 is the only district "beyond" 12? We can only speculate, so I appreciate your feedback!
ReplyDeleteI stole my sons books and read the trilogy recently. I don't have them with me so I can't confirm this, but I thought I read something about the bigger numbers being furthest from the Capital. 13 has to be in Ontario (because of the graphite mines), 12 in PA/WV (close to 13), 11 in GA/AL, 10 in TX. If these are the furthest away, 4 has to be on the Pacific, I like 3 on the west coast too. 6,8,9 can be in the Midwest but I'm not sure I would go any further east than Chicago. Man-made industries can change, certain geographical feature cannot.
DeleteWhy did no districts end up in Mexico? Was it covered in water? I cannot specifically speak for what industries/districts would fit in well there because I myself cannot think of any. Just wondering.
ReplyDeleteI always thought the Capitol was in Salt Lake City. The citizens have a distinct accent that I have not encountered anywhere else. Salt Lake City is located on the other side of the Rockies from Colorado. Katniss mentions that the mountains create a natural barrier between the Capitol and the eastern districts helping the Capitol win the war. (THG p59) This also suggests that nearly all of the districts are east of the Capitol with the exception of maybe one and two. As for the glamour...maybe that developed after the wars or the people from CA and Las Vegas (currently below sea level) had to move northwest from the flooding.
District 4 is tricky. Alaska, New England, Florida, and Washington State are all great fishing areas. One has to assume that many of the coastal areas are now underwater. So this would change of course. Alaska was my school’s first choice, however, Finnick is an excellent swimmer this rules out most of the northern areas because even in a wet suit most people are not swimming in cold water. Let alone an entire District. It is mentioned that everyone in District 4 is an excellent swimmer. It gives district 4 an enormous advantage in CF. The entire northern Pacific coast and Alaska’s water temperatures never reach 60* F even in the summer months because the pacific current travels from North to south always bringing the cold waters down from Alaska. This makes the East Coast a more viable option because the Atlantic currents travel up from the south i.e. Hurricanes etc. However, Katniss does mention 13 being the farthest East. Florida was our next thought, warm enough and fishing in the Atlantic does happen but we never factored in the water levels. Maybe this is where Mexico factors in?? But, on the Pacific side though, since the Gulf has its problems.
Perhaps District 4 is near the Great Lakes region?
DeleteThanks for sharing your thoughts, Anon. I think you make valid points. In an older map of Panem (this is perhaps my 8th or 9th revision...kind of an obsession) I did have district 4 in Mexico (Baja Calif/Cabo). I think with a rise in water levels most of Mexico is still high enough above sea level to be present. Florida would be mostly under, however. I just tried to use as many context clues as possible, but since there are still gaps in what Katniss either knows about the districts or isn't telling us as readers, we'll still have to continue to just speculate. Also, you may notice my smaller map from September which had the district all east of the Capitol. I did consider that, as well. But I still get stuck on her description of the districts "ringed" around the Capitol. How can they "ring" if they are all on one side? So did she mean that the mountains protected the Capitol from just the eastern districts and not the others? A city in the Rockies could easily be surrounded on all sides by mountains, not just on the east. But I like your placing of the Capitol in SLC, too. Thanks, again, for sharing!
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ReplyDeleteThanks, Anonymous. I have to remove your post, however, because of the profanity (I'm a teacher & do not want this to be blocked by our school web filters). But I am posting the link to the original explanation. Thanks for your feedback - I do like this map of Panem and the thought that went into it: http://aimmyarrowshigh.livejournal.com/32461.html
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed your post and the thought you have put into the districts. Because the district 4 tributes are good swimmers I too believe that the districts location is on the east coast. Personally, I believe that District 4 is somewhere near New Orleans, or at least in whatever part of LA isn't flooded. The book was written before the BP spill, so the author wouldn't have accounted for the problems it has today. The biggest clue in my opinion is that Mags has an accent that is hard to understand (think Farmer Fran from The Waterboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3wuSO59OdM). Also I believe that the only viable location for district 7 is the Pacific Northwest. The two main timber regions of the US are the Northwest and Southeast. In The Hunger Games universe, Southeastern forests would have either been flooded by rising sea levels or their land would have been better used for other purposes (such as the orchards of district 11). Pacific Northwest forest lands are the most product in the US (in terms of biomass / year of growth) and the land they grow on do not have a better alternative purpose (steep slopes and often harsh soils prone to erosion). Pacific Northwest forests are also more productive than the boreal forests of Canada near Ontario, so they are not a viable location either for district 7 (and the books say that the districts are in the US anyway).
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment, Nipchamonkey. I agree that the Pacific NW is more ideal, so I did update my latest map. However, there is no mention of the US in any of the novels. Panem is located in the former North America, which includes Canada & Mexico.
ReplyDeleteMags's garbled speech could have been due to a stroke. Finnick does not have an accent, nor does Annie, or at least not one that Katniss finds different enough to mention.
Even before the BP oil spill, the Gulf has suffered from a dead zone due to chemical run-off from Midwest farmers (that drain into the Mississippi, which drains into the Gulf). I think the Baja area might yeild better fishing, so I placed 4 there in my newly updated maps. But I do appreciate your Waterboy/Farmer Fran reference! Too funny! :)
I just read the books this week and was curious to see if there was a definitive placement for the districts. I wanted to see if my guesses were correct!
ReplyDeleteYour placement of many of the districts makes sense to me and are where I had placed them.
But the capital? I live in Colorado and have spent a lot of time in Aspen and driven through Vail so many times i've lost count, that with the description that we get during Katniss and company's travels through it in Mockingjay, there is no way it could be in Aspen or any of the mountain towns of Colorado. The Valleys are just not large enough to accommodate a city of any great size, let alone laid out in a perfect grid. Not to mention have the area for the arena for the hunger games to be close by. And the weather? It's a lot colder in the mountains, even their summers really only get into the 70's and they're still chilly at night.
The capital would have to be on the Western Slope of the Rocky Mountains. Someone's suggestion of SLC, well that would work, but there is no mention of the Salt Lake being near the Capitol.
Western Slope of Colorado makes the most sense, specifically Grand Junction/Grand Valley. It's proximity to the Colorado Springs and NORAD, a little over an hour by their trains, the flat terrain, plentiful water and the fact that the entire valley is broken down into a grid. In a wartime situation this little town would be forgotten, it has a no real value. The only thing it has going for it is it's the largest city on the Western Slope. If most of the nations larger cities were destroyed. Well, it might not be. Not to mention the mild weather.
Yeah. I think that placing the Capital in or near Colorado Springs makes sense. I figured that leaders from the original Capital took shelter in Cheyenne Mountain or something and created a new Capital there. Also, Colorado Springs is internationally known for the world arena. I figured that district 2 would be in Utah and Idaho. District 2 has a very authoritarian, almost fanatical devotion to leaders and militaristic approach to patriotism. Mormon history is a hobby of mind. If you haven't read about it, Mormon history is fascinating. This sounds prejudiced if you haven't read enough, but the mindset of district 2 fits with this history.
DeleteDistrict 7 also produces paper products which requires a lot of water. I think District 7 would be in one of the areas that traditionally produced paper! Such as Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, by the Great Lakes.
ReplyDeleteI would also expect District 4 to be near New Orleans... has anyone ever tried to swim in the Pacific Northwest? It's crazy cold all year around... I wouldn't expect most of the people from the area to be expert swimmers, as it is implied District 4 kids are. Louisiana makes more sense to me.
Also, sorry-- didn't mean to jump right in there with disagreements... I love the thought you put into this, and I love the fact that I'm not the only one who obsesses about this sort of thing. Keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteI welcome disagreements! :) I actually learn so much more from others, so I definitely love to hear others' opinions.
ReplyDeleteI originally put 4 (in an earlier map) near the Gulf, but it does not seem the best location for actual fishing for sustenance. But perhaps there is more there than I think. I've never been to Louisiana, so I have no idea! What I do know about the draining of the Mississippi river is that we have done so much damage to sea life in that area from chemical run-off and have created this massive dead zone. Collins mentions the negative impact past humans had on the environment several times in the series. But, who knows!?
I also contimplated the northern midwestern states for 7, as well. I think that is a valid argument and could see that district there, as well.
To the previous poster about the Capitol, I also see your points. My father-in-law lived in Colorado Springs, Gunnison, Crested Butte, and Fort Collins, so we have been out there several times to visit. I do think they could accomodate the Capitol (I don't think the Capitol is going to be very large - not like what we consider large cities today; again, the population has shrunk immensely). Plus, it is cold in Mockingjay. They wear winter coats/furs and the seasons do change.
The arenas are not necessarily close to the Capitol. Katniss remarks that they are vacation spots and the arena in the 74th Games took over an hour via hovercraft to arrive. My students & I figured out that hovercrafts travel about 560 mph based on Katniss's calculations in chapter 2. Therefore, the arena in the 74th Games would be about that same distance. She mentioned that they never know how far they have to travel from the Capitol and get up before dawn even though the Games don't start until 10 a.m. But, once again, I could be completely wrong. It is fun to try to figure out, though!
Thanks so much for your feedback!
I live in Louisiana and fishing and shrimping are HUGE here. Commercial fishing accounts for more than $300 million of LA's economy- even after the oil spill. Here's a site about Louisiana's coastal erosion that may help define the underwater region a bit more (and support the District 4 in Louisiana theory). http://www.restoreorretreat.org/la_erosion_facts.php
DeleteI noticed you said that you live nearby the Mississippi! I am originally from Clinton, Iowa, although I don't live there now, which is right across from Illinois. That seemed interesting to me. I love this project and it is fun to try and think of where these might be. I think you have a great understanding of it so far. I wish we did these kind of projects in my class!
ReplyDeleteKylee - I live about 20 miles from Clinton in Erie. :) It's a small world, huh!?
ReplyDeleteHi I really think you did a great job on the map. I think you were right to move 4 to the Pacific side. I'm from New Orleans and although we have a large seafood industry it is very vulnerable and I do not think that it would be able to support Panem. There is one thing I don't completly agree on is moving 6 to the DC area. Mostly bc that area is very low and in the books it says that a lot of land was lost to rising seas and so then alot of the DC area would be submerged or close to it. Also that would go against the books saying that after 12 its just the ruins of 13.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the time and effort you put into this.
--Kenny.
Great point, Kenny! I did consider that in one of my previous maps. I was just so enthralled with the similarities of Raven Rock Complex to District 13, so that's what I based it on (since Boggs mentions that it was an existing structure they inherited and they just expanded it).
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ReplyDeleteI read a q&a with Suzanne Collins where she was asked where the districts could lie in North America and she states that 1 & 2 would be in the Rockies, 4 is the Pacific Ocean, 10 in the West, 11 in the deep South and 12 & 13 she felt she had given enough of a hint to because she mentioned they had "Appalachian accents" in 12. She wouldn't give away anything else. Hope this helps. :)
ReplyDeleteAlthough I haven't gone nearly as in depth as most people in my search for where the districts are located in Panem, while I was reading the description of each, I had an idea. It could be based on how much I enjoy my region, of course, but it's a possibility.
ReplyDeleteWould you consider that District 5 is actually in the Arizona area, close to the Colorado river? There are several nuclear power plants in southern Arizona and several also in southern California, but I can't recall whether the books ever say that it is, in fact, nuclear power that runs Panem. The plants are on either side of the Colorado, which already supplies most of the electricity and water for both states. A location in Arizona, say around a dam in the Colorado river, would provide large amounts of hydroelectric power, which could be easily expanded with immense solar panels, and windmills such as you see as you drive from Arizona to California. That gives three to four power sources in one general location, making the availability of it more steady. The solar panels gather energy when the river is low; when it rains, the river is faster, creating more power even if the panels are shaded. Wind is a constant, especially during March and April in the southwest, and if a nuclear plant is close enough, you've got it's energy also.
Again, I'm biased towards home, but it's a possibility worth thinking about, in my opinion.
Absolutely! Thanks for sharing. I think we are all probably partial to our homes. ;) Thanks for bringing those facts to my attention.
DeleteThanks for sharing! I really needed it for a current project I'm doing.
ReplyDeleteThe Gulf of Mexico is a wonderous body of water that manages to nurse the mistakes of man back to some semblance of health. I was born near the mouth of the Mississippi River and know that the seafood industry will thrive, even with the oil spill.
ReplyDeleteAs for Mags, I, too, took her for Cajun French. My ancestors are from Lafourche Parish and still speak with heavy French-influenced dialects. I do realize that Mags had a stroke, but I feel that she was from this part of the country. And, the Cajun people have primarily dark hair, bronzed skin and brown eyes.
Thank you for sharing this information! Unfortunately, we are dealing with the mistakes of man here in Illinois with the Asian carp in our rivers and the continued toxins from pesticides/herbicides contaminating our water. Unfortunately, some mistakes can't be reversed. If the carp get into the Great Lakes, it is going to be an entirely new kind of disaster.
DeleteWhile on the train to the Capitol for the first time, Katniss looks out the window and sees lights in the distance, and comments that she thinks it's probably lights from District 7. So wouldn't it make more sense for 7 to be en-route from 11 to the Capitol?
ReplyDeleteActually, on page 53 it reads: "In the distance, I see the lights of another district. 7? 10? I don't know."
DeleteThe repression of information from the citizens is common in a dystopian society. Katniss has no idea where the other districts are, which is why a map was never provided in the novels. They don't learn geography in school because that would give the citizens knowledge of one another. And knowledge is power. So for all she knows, it could be any of the districts. As she learns more about Panem, we learn more about the districts, so I mainly drew from the information in Mockingjay and Catching Fire. But I do appreciate the feedback. Thank you!
That can't be right. Yours must say 7 and 10, but mine uses 11 and 3. Different versions maybe?
DeleteI agree with your idea of 3 being in arizona and mexico FAR more than California as I live near San Franscisco. 1) Silicon Valley would be under water. 2) What would be left is EXTREMELY hilly (and is sparsely populated as it is) so I'm not sure where they would be making these auto manufacturing plants. Plus this conflicts with statements Collins has made.
ReplyDeletePer the Author district 4 is on the pacific, not just the gulf of mexico(though it would make sense for 4 to extend that far). As for it being too cold well I surf year round, yeah its cold in the winter you for sure want a wetsuit in Norcal, but its not bad in Socal, and its especially not bad along Baja. The people native to california fit the descriptions of Mags and Finnick.
Additionally per the author 1 in the Rockies not Vegas.
I also like the point a commenter made about 5 being somewhere in the southwest. Lots of wind, sun, fast flowing rivers and lots of open space to build nuclear plants.
Great job though, I've seen a ton of these maps on pinterest and this is by far the best yet. The ones where all of California are under water drive me bananas. Not that I want California to be saved but the idea that Tahoe is under water but the coast of Texas isn't drives me cracker...
I was thinking of Salt Lake City for district 1. And the Mormon Temple (see here http://saltlakemormontemple.com/) definitely looks like a castle!
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing, Jenna! You made some great points. :) And that really does look like a castle. Wow!
DeleteThis is awesome....but I don't know. Didn't the book mention how the districts were in kind of a ring or half circle or something around the capitol? But I'm pretty sure the Capitol and District 12 are in place.
ReplyDeleteWow, what a great job!
ReplyDeleteLike many others though, I did get the sense that District 4 had at least some of its coastal areas in the Gulf of Mexico ... partly because it's my home area, and as someone else has posted, it feels good to be able to connect.
Still, two other small bits of evidence I picked up: First, there's a shrimp shortage in Catching Fire as mentioned by Octavia, and Katniss puts this down to rebellion in District 4. I know there are probably other commerical shrimping areas in North American of course, but the GoM is the main wild shrimp supplier for the US. Secondly, during the second Hunger Games, one of the sponsors sends a spicy red sauce to go with the raw seafood diet the participants are subsisting on. To me, that says Tabasco, which is of course, Louisianian in origin. On the other hand, I guess some people might call plain cocktail or chili sauce spicy too, I'm just not one of them lol.
What about a District 4 with both Pacific and Gulf Coasts, and possibly even a [partial] Northern or Southern border of the Rio Grande River? Of course then, putting District 10 (livestock right?) in the Valley begins to have its problems I guess ...
This is tough ... great job again, and thanks for sharing your hard work!
Texas would not in be district 10. Everything from Florida to Houston, TX would more-likely-than-not be underwater thus making Arkansas, TN, and Oklahoma the the northern Gulf of Mexico coastline and central Texas the western coastline. Corpus is on the water now, doubtful it would exist in Panem. Also, PAC-NW would also more than likely no longer exist nor would anything west of the Sierra Nevadas. Really the possibilities are vast however; we can assume that the areas prone to devistation now will be totally inihilated by the time of The Hunger Games.
ReplyDeleteCapitol: I believe is Denver. Every road and railway feeds into it. It is a major hub for even airlines.
ReplyDeleteDistrict 1: I would place in the mineral rich areas around the Rockies and logically near the Capitol. Gold, copper, zinc and may other ores and minerals are readily available. I am thinking Pueblo Co. or Salt lake city.
District 2: I place in Colorado Springs near Cheyenne Mountain (the nut). The pets get privilege.
District 3: Silicon Valley California. Semi conductors and information technology, just seems to be a good fit.
District 4: Southern California. At first I was thinking Florida/ Louisiana, but being a career district, it would need to be closer to the capitol. I kind of picture Finnick as a Socal surfer/ playboy (although forced by Snow).
District 5: Being that it is power I had the Hoover Dam in mind. It makes sense, still near the capitol.
District 6: is Detroit. Transportation just seems like a good fit. Also I think the Morphlings are a sad social commentary on drug abuse in the area.
District 7: I place with bias as I am in Oregon. I think it is the Pacific Northwest. Even with rising sea water most of Oregon and Washington and BC is protected by the coast range or the Cascade Range.
District 8: Ohio. It is one of the U.S.’s largest manufacturing states, seems to be a fit for smelly factories as described in ‘Catching Fire’.
District 9: I would put mid-west. Raw grain sent to 10 feeding cattle, 11 could send food up to 9 to be processed.
District 10: Texas. Large stock yards, big ranches.
District 11: Atlanta. From all we know, this seems to be the logical choice.
District 12: West Virginia. Coal production is still the biggest industry in the Area.
District 13: Three mile Island Pennsylvania. It has a close proximity to Mechanicsburg, PA which is the Defense supply center for the U.S. Military, In addition to all the other military instillations area. Also just made sense as Bonnie and Twill were in 12 and on foot from WV, it would be a week or so to reach Pennsylvania
Just my two cents!! I love the maps though.
How about moving District 12 to Pennsylvania and moving District 13 to Ontario. That keeps 12 and 13 close to each other and matches with current geographic deposits of coal and graphite. As far as the nuclear items, those couldn't have been built in the future. District one is hard, there used to be a diamond mine in Colorado, maybe they found more. Current active mines are in Arkansas and Northwest Territories, Canada. I would think District 1 would be closer to the Capitol than those two place so why not Colorado. District 10-13 need to be the furthest away from the Capital, which kind of places District 4 on the West Coast. Where? your guess is a good as any. There has been a climatic event which caused the sea level to rise at least a little. Maybe the fishing is good in SoCal.
DeleteThe Capitol being in Denver is totally wrong. The book says: “The mountains form a natural barrier between the capitol and the eastern districts. It is almost impossible to enter from the east except through the tunnels.” This means that the Capitol lies west of the Rocky Mountains, with the mountains forming a barrier on its east side. Denver is on the far east edge of the Rocky Mountains and is therefore totally exposed to the eastern part of the country. The Capitol therefore must be in Utah or Idaho, on the western side of the Rockies. Perhaps Salt Lake City, but definitely not Denver.
DeleteI agree with Jake. As a native Idahoan that has traveled extensively in the west, I would place the Capitol in one of three places:
Delete1. Sun Valley, Idaho. A resort town where the elite already live/visit, surrounded by mountains on either side, but the more formidable barriers to the east.
2. Sawtooth Valley, Idaho. Just north of Sun Valley, this isn't populated, per se, yet. But it's picturesque and surrounded by mountains--over 50 miles of mountains in any direction.
3. Heber City, Utah. Just outside of SLC, surrounded by mountains. Couldn't be SLC, because there are fewer mountains to the west, and you can't get past why the lake wouldn't be mentioned.
Google any of these places with pictures and see what I mean. I like the suggestion that district 2 is Colorado Springs, which lends more to Heber City as the Capitol. District 1 could be SLC in this scenario. Bingham Copper mine--largest copper mine in the world, is just west of SLC.
I would completely agree with the Capital being further to the west owing to the same statement from the book. I also have issue with so many districts on the western coast. Firstly as stated, the rebels lost the war owing to the fact that they had to go over the mountains, and it was almost impossible to approach from the "eastern districts". This statement defiantly means that a huge majority(and possibly all) of the districts are to the east of the capital (apart from perhaps district two). If there were any districts directly to the N/S and further to the W, the rebels could of simply gone around and attacked from the west. In Mockingjay, even after taking two they are still forced through the tunnel. This seems to be almost definitive proof that there are NO districts to the west, as otherwise why would they take all of the losses to clear the tunnel if they controlled any districts to the west? Secondly, the tunnel to the capital is described as being quite long perhaps taking 15-20 mins to get through. As the train is said to move at 200mph, they must have covered at leas 75 miles or so, and with the size/grid flat layout I don't see how aspen or almost anywhere in Colorado would be possible. Add to that the good evidence to support that there are no districts to the west of the capital, and a large at least 50 mile range of mountains to the east of it and it has to be closer to Utah.
DeleteThe best evidence that there are districts is the west is the author saying District 4 is on the Pacific. Also if you take into account the statement about how hard it was to approach from the "eastern districts', well that implies there are western districts. So bury the Capital somewhere deep in the Rockies. Districts 1 and 2 are somewhere around the Rockies too. Districts 3 and 4 on the Pacific, because the numbering system should make a little sense. 5 could be anywhere, but I'd put it in the desert SW. Again, it makes the numbering system make sense. 6-13 are all eastern districts. I'd place District 7 in Wisconsin.
DeleteRemember, this is set in the future. Account for built environment, agglomeration, expansion and urbanization.
DeleteI thought it said somewhere in the books that the districts were numbered lower the closer they were to the Capitol. So with 1 and 2 being in the Rockies (as per the author) and 4 being by the Pacific, plus 12 and 13 being as far East as one can go, that seems supported. Also, when does it say the water level had risen so much that most of America was under water? I don't remember reading anything like that.
ReplyDeleteKatniss had no idea where each district was located because the government did not allow things like geography or knowledge of other districts to be taught (if they knew more about each other, they may be more likely to rebel--guess that repression didn't work, huh!?). Anyway, she does mention that the ORDER of districts visited during the victory tour always ended with your own district, so in Catching Fire they went to 11 first and ended with 12. If But she never says how the actual route goes (they might be zig-zagging all over the country for all we know).
DeleteIn the first chapter when Mayor Undersee is reading the Treaty of Treason he mentions the rise in water level.
Thanks for posting, Sabrina! I appreciate your feedback & comments.
My comment is not related to the location of the districts but to the map as a whole. Katniss mentions that Panem rose out of the ashes of North America after droughts, fires, floods, and encroaching seas. I took this to be in part the result of melting polar ice caps which would have flooded parts of North America and changed the shape of the continent slightly.
ReplyDeleteI agree. My other maps have the topography if the sea level rose 100 feet (which is a lot). I liked the map that had the city names on it, so I went with that, trying to gauge what would be underwater. Thanks for the feedback!
DeleteI thought that maybe some of the encroaching seas involved tsunamis and may have drastically trimmed off land.
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ReplyDeleteI'm sorry you removed your comment, btzmacin. I think you made some very good points. Thanks & good luck with your fanfic project.
DeleteFirst of all, nice job on the map. I particularly agree with the placement of District 9. I grew up in Cedar Rapids and still live there. There are a lot of refineries and they do stink a lot. I also agree with the placement of District 4 in the Pacific North West. They could probably do a lot better fishing there than in the Gulf.
ReplyDeleteThe dead zone created by nitrogen/phosphorus run off in the gulf may not have persisted for long after the end of large scale agriculture on the continent. Dead zones do persist after runoff is halted since some nitrogen is deposited in the sediment and released over time, but it does not last forever, there may have been sufficient time between the depopulation of North America and the setting up of the districts for the gulf to recover.
ReplyDeleteOne issue with your locations of D6 and D8... Bonnie and Twill got off the train between those two districts, and started walking *toward D13*. D12 just happened to be between where they left the train and D13. There's no indication that they intentionally headed for D12, and according to your map they'd have to have gotten quite lost to end up going so far south when their goal was to head due east to D13.
ReplyDeleteOverall, this is one of the best thought-out maps out there, though.
District 13 would have to be in Canada, because Ontario is the only location in North America with a graphite mine. :3
ReplyDeleteBut, other than that I really like it!
I propose that the refineries might be in District 6. They're in charge of transportation, and it seems to me that simply building and maintaining trains and hovercraft isn't enough for them to do (how often do you need new trains?). But the transportation-related industry that would require the most continuous effort is the production of fuel to supply those trains and hovercraft.
ReplyDeleteI always felt like the districts were in some sort of numerical order in their placement (after all the east coast is 13-12-11). So, it makes sense to me to just move over to the west for D10 (Texas), then move up with D9, and D8 (landing in Ohio). Moving west again for D7 (in Wisconsin's #1 paper industry) and down to D6 (think transcontinental railroad), then D5 (definitely Hoover dam and wind power). Then just move west again and go up on the other side of the Capitol for D4, 3, 2, and 1.
ReplyDeleteim glad to see that some people are educated. North America doesn't only consist the United Sates ...Canada and Mexico are also part of North America. Rockies run from BC Canada all the way to Mexico so the capital can very well be in British Columbia Canada. thanks for including Canada. Much appreciated !!!
ReplyDeleteI don't believe district 8 would be near Chicago because for one, there is actually quite a bit of green area in and especially around the city. I have lived in the area for my entire life.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the dirty, stinking industry reminds me far more of Detroit than of Chicago. Detroit has a large industrial economy and lacks much of the greenery as described. It also is much colder than Chicago.
I would argue that District 13 lies around the Great Lakes. Nuclear research requires lots of water for cooling and the only mines that produce recordable amounts of graphite in North America rest on the edge of Lake Huron.
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ReplyDeletein the book mockingjay it is mentioned that there is an escaped district 10 resident living in 13. i doubt he made it all the way from texas to district 13. possibly reconsider moving 10 closer to 13
ReplyDeleteThe Panem shoreline. Unless this takes place 10,000 years into the future and the land sinks, it's not physically possible for the sea level to rise that much. If all the ice on this planet melted, sea level would rise 250 ft and it would be really hot. It doesn't appear the climate has changed that much. Man made destruction could effect the shoreline, but wouldn't change the sea level. Thus you can probably use a current North American Map and it would be mostly correct except maybe Florida.
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ReplyDeleteI did not get to see your map until after seeing all the others and doing my own research. Looks like we came up with many similar locations and reasons. My maps (rough, detailed) along with my discussion as to why I chose my locations are at Fanpop.com:
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30500000/Panem-Map-general-the-hunger-games-30567105-960-720.jpg
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30500000/Panem-Map-detailed-the-hunger-games-30567187-2560-1070.jpg
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/the-hunger-games/articles/157698/title/panem-maps
I like your finding of the Raven Rock Mountain Complex. That in conjunction with Mt. Weather could have developed into a massive joined complex. This would of course mean I would have to move District 12.
I like your positioning of 11 and 4, as there is an interview with Suzanne Collins: http://www.thehob.org/2010/09/the-hob-exclusive-part-2-suzanne-collins-signing-and-qa.html
where she states that 4 is on the Pacific when so many people put it in the Gulf and she also states that 11 is around Atlanta.
In regards to your statements regarding geography education, I can't think that Katniss would be so ignorant of her own ignorance of geography to make an unqualified questioning as to whether the lights she sees in the distance on the train to the 74th Hunger Games are from 7 or 10, if she had no idea where those districts were. Also, since she knows where 13 was(is) and where 11 is, I think it is quite appearant that the geography of Panem is known, an that it is just the lack of knowing the exact location of the train that causes her to wonder. In other words, she knows that she is somewhere near 7 and 10, but not specifically, which would mean that they are on the train ride approximately half way from 12 to the Capitol. Other than 7 and 11 our maps (your Take 10 and mine) look quite similar, looks like we even started with the same 100m sea level rise map as our base. Lol.
Oops, I mean 7 and 10 in the last sentence.
DeleteDistrict 13 could be located just east of Augusta, Ga at or near the Savannah River Site where nuclear weapons were made.
ReplyDeleteNothing you say can make me think that 7 is in the Pacific Northwest. Based on what Katniss says on her 1st trip to the Capital. She knows where the capital is and why its position of it was one of the reasons the rebels losing the fight during the dark days. She knows the approximate location of the 13. I could keep going on but someone else has already pointed out my argument about Katniss and why she would have had this knowledge.
ReplyDeleteSecond. You can’t base the position of the districts on what is ideal now. Hundreds of years in the future things can change a lot. There uses to be forests all over this country. There are endless possibilities to the position of the forests because they can be grown. A society that has the ability to create a fully grown mutation within days (the eyes of the mutts in THG could not have been known till the reaping at the soonest) surely could invent a way to grow trees quickly to be cut down. Factories can be built other places. Also, I live near a Nuclear Power plant in Nebraska. It stands to reason in a future where we have screwed everything up that they would be all over.
Maybe the point of the books is that War is NOT a game (well one of the many point of the book) Knowing where the districts are may help paint a picture better but is not the most important. Kids should focus on not being selfish, wasteful and be reminded that there is a price that comes to WAR and we usualy do send our children off to die in them. (by the way Donald Sutherland made the point on kids and war on a GMA interview to promote the movie)
First, thank you for taking the time to comment, crazywolf. I do appreciate the feedback here.
DeleteSecond, I gather you just looked at the map without READING, otherwise you would have read this in the fourth paragraph: "...I question the exact placement of districts on my map. For starters, what does Panem look like? We know the landmass of North America has changed due to "encroaching seas that swallowed up so much of the land" (THG p. 18). So any map is pure speculation based on what we think the oceans have devoured and the war and disasters left untouched." NO ONE can say for sure where each district is.
Third, if you took the time to read some of the other posts on my blog, you would have read about the themes and the true message of the book. This post focuses solely on having students plot their own maps of Panem based on context clues.
And finally, if you want others to respect your knowledge and opinion about the book, it helps if you use the correct spelling of those places. (It's Capitol, with an o.)
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